Even before ranked roles queue times were long and games still had a weird rank difference sometimes (rank 4k and a rank 100). She can shove out lanes,. Who is eligible to appear on the leaderboard? To qualify, a player must have all of the following: At least 300 lifetime matchmade games played. I have yet to find a low-immortal player who likes the new system. Please add role queue above 7. 5K ranked roles isn't even a thing to queue up. Give incentives to supports and/or disadvantages for playing core. Explore . Usually I wait 10-15. Entirely depends on your luck in both modes. Dota 2 > General Discussions > Topic Details. On top of that, you should try to limit your pool as much as possible. When people CHOOSE to go classic mode most likely it's a problem players. Ranked matchmaking is divided into two categories - Ranked Roles and Ranked Classic. Reply. planting a ward 3. I had the TI8 BP and I have a long term Dota+ subscription. Normal players maybe not yet. More posts you may like. sure, sometimes you get intentional feeders and complete idiots, but it's not that bad. I've given a time out of dota like half an year ago because of the peruvians in the brazilian server. high immortals playing classic cause the player base is too small for ranked role. Most games are made of 10 players that actually want to play DOTA together and win. The implementation of role queue in ranked matchmaking, which puts teams together based on players’ preferred roles, slowed things down for the sake of creating higher quality game experiences. Whenever I tried to get pos3 in Ranked Classic, there will be always some egoist. I like pos 4-5, and ppl are so much more grateful of your sup in classic. People just hoppin on and alredy throwing the game cus they dont gotta win to get ranked role. I think it has to do with the fact that. I think if you're 7k to 7. Find out the radical changes made to the ranked matchmaking of Dota 2. Ranked Roles allows players to queue for the role they want to play. And players can’t choose which side they should play when they play ranked matches or regular matches, except if they are playing bot or lobby games. Así funciona el sistema de emparejamiento y las medallas de clasificación en Dota 2. I tried every role and all have 20 min plus queue times. Archon: 2520 to 3240 MMR. when_is_mikkel • 3 yr. This is mainly a bigger problem in ranked roles because people can abuse the support queue to get faster queues so you get a lot of core players queuing and picking incorrect roles. I hope they change it back to just being able to pick roles without tokens in the next ranked season. This new system is great if most players know each other (i. . Ranked roles is for the newbies, top 100 players only play classic, and negotiate about roles. Dota 2 just doesn't have enough new players to always be able to provide you with 9 other noobs in your region and at the time you're playing. In Dota 2, ranked games involve players choosing specific roles in a team, such as Carry and Support. 2020-03-03. You could check the handicap given by typing the following into your console. The matchmaker will also adjust the overall MMR rating of the match to whatever role you have picked. In. Classic too toxic. There are 5 core roles in the game: Carry, Mid, Offlane, Soft Support and Hard Support. Once you click that button, the game will instantly begin the. Ranked matchmaking is divided into two categories - Ranked Roles and Ranked Classic. Create, share and explore a wide variety of DotA 2 hero guides, builds and general strategy in a friendly community. I climbed from 2. ago. in terms of game quality, as i said, u are mostly getting matched against role queue players , its not considered as balanced in any logical way. With the current Ranked Roles system, it’s difficult to entirely avoid having to play position four and five at some point in your road to gaining MMR. In this system, Dota 2 gave players the option to choose between core or support. Click play ranked classic match. That means Dota 2 is calculating role-specific-handicaps in the back to ensure a better matchmaking experience. The latest update removed separate core and support ranks and merged them back into a single rank. For example if u queue with miracle, ceb, gorgc and puppey u know ur probably pos 4. January 24, 2023. Cool site thank you, I know my behavior score is low. 1. 2) Losing charges you a game, losing streak of 3 or more charges you 2 games. I shouldn't have to deal with two people rolling for mid and the one losing the roll instantly claiming position three even…Dota 2 Action game DotA MOBA Gaming Valve Corporation Strategy video game comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A satosoujirou • Additional comment actions. For the most part play ranked roles with your best roles highlighted and swap if need be. g 3 heroes for each role playing 3 differnt roles would mean learning 3 different jobs and 9 heroes as opposed to 9 different supports heroes and only 1 job. People are far less willing to switch roles, especially when it comes to one of the supports swapping with. 07 players had to click on the MMR tracking and a complete MMR Graph appears. nop. It is only a minor correction in mmr for that particular match, far away from what a single smurf can do in fooling the matchmaker. The teams are balanced. Suggest your mains to the captain and don't have a pick-this-or-gg kinda behavior. However, the new Dota 2 MMR ranks recognise that players may excel in different roles, such as core positions (Carry, Mid, Offlane) or support positions (Hard. Nature’s Prophet. Apparently, Valve is still experimenting with the new system. Please change how you select what role you want for ranked roles. Dota 2 is a registered. Today’s update features a change to the rank system that replaces the Core/Support separation with a single rank that uses handicaps for each of the five ranked roles, representing your relative strength playing each position. I'm sure somebody, somewhere has done it intentionally, but given the entire point of ranked roles queue, I. Expand user menu Open settings menu Open settings menuGone from like an average of 2-3 mins to; 15-20 mins on Role Ranked 5-10 minutes for Normal Ranked. Whenever we have to queue classic (because ofc our carry never has ranked roles games, his smol brain cant deal with. Also in role queue, I'd get teammates/enemy closer to my mmr (legend bracket). If you dont have lastpick stuff like ember and mk becomes situational. like i dont know what the hell are u even talking about. View the complete Dota 2 profile for аянами рей on DotabuffThose of us on dota plus had 2 or 3 mins waits rarely like 10. Everyone understands their roles and plays them, it's the best thing dota has done in my opinion other than the new player queue :) offlane and pos 5 probably most high demand. you can't random in ranked roles, but you can in ranked classic, and ranked classic teams can match with ranked role teams. 33e in the carry role is Naga Siren. Dota 2 Action game DotA MOBA Gaming Valve Corporation Strategy video game comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A [deleted] • Additional comment actions [removed] Reply. Right now it's locked behind dota plus , and the current role match making is a different thing than having only ranked matchmaking. So that lower mmr players have a chance to learn certain roles in unranked mm. The top 100 immortal players were easily tilted whenever ranked 1000+ immortals were in the games. Bought dota plus, everytime I have time for dota I start with ranked roles queue as a SUPPORT. Especially for Ranked Roles mode, the pick order should be: Supports first, then Offlane, then Hard Carry, then Mid. Classic has the potential to be a bit more chaotic and in-fighty over roles and farm-greed, but again that applies to the other team as well. ranked role is for people who want to choose rank but are now forced to contribute to the system first by queing for all role. Centaur Warrunner. So, it is semantically wrong that they don‘t play the role they picked. The only reason to not play ranked roles is if you need to get role q games in the first place. Divine: 5040 to 5760 MMR. 33 launched last month. English-speaking community to discuss gameplay, esports, and news related to Valve's award winning free-to-play MOBA DotA 2. In this mode, players have to select a role even before searching a game and later on have to follow that role by picking a fitting hero. I think it has to do with the fact that. ago. To play in Ranked Roles you need to earn Role Queue games by playing matches while selecting all roles--this is unchanged from before. The problem is, in about 10 games, I only get 1 or 2 games where my role is not either one of the supports. Immortal (top 1) –. Go the Dota 2 settings. September 22, 2023. 2k MMR which is a. The point about role queue is that people play the roles they selected. Technically they did not pick their role but get attributed to that role which the matchmaker decided for them. Even for Guardian 1 queue time sometimes is 20-30 minutes. This scenario impacts lower-average skill brackets the most, where players are typically less concerned/knowledgeable in regard to viable lane structures and effective strategy. This is generally good advice all the time, but I find it especially applicable to the current patch. Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman: Match ID 5404129959. Gunnar, for example, if he's streaming, will happily play any role in pubs if he knows he has an inflexible mid on his team. [Top 10] Dota 2 Mars Counters That Are Powerful (Best Heroes Against Mars in Dota 2, Ranked) The first son of heaven, Mars, is somewhat of a new addition to the game. This usually takes longer to find a match. I think it's because people are not stuck in their comfort zone, which makes them widen their view about dota 2. Under the MMR Recalibration section, there should be a large blue button that says “Activate Recalibration. 5k you don't really want to Q ranked roles unless you're mid because the matchup can be quite unfair. A tier: Phantom Lancer, Slark, Medusa, Morphling, Terrorblade S tier: Faceless Void, Naga Siren, Bloodseeker The breakout winner of 7. So the question is, which suits you more than. While you can’t select roles before playing in Ranked Classic, you can do so in Ranked Roles. The world’s best Dota 2 players have. Though roles are closely followed in mid-to-high-ranked games, you can still feel this structure in casual modes. pos 4 5 too, if we can choose multiple roles. This thing is. You can report them for not playing their role in the drafting screen where you click their roles under their name like Hard Support. If you play only 1 it means you can diversify your hero roster a little more because it's more manageable. 😉 One main factor for changing the Dota 2 MMR Rank is course winning and losing. 33e in the carry role. That's more of a problem with the balance of the game. In classic unranked I'd get heralds/guardians in my games. You click hard support and there is a pop out to let you report them for not playing their role. I am canceling my Dota+, because there is no longer a point in paying for ranked roles, if you are opening it up to everyone and letting them queue for all positions. Through this article, VCGamers will recommend to Vicigers Hard Support Dota 2 heroes that you can use to play when playing with friends or playing ranked. I don’t want to describe all the situation that leading us to lose, but I don’t know what to do. So your team consisted of a Legend 4, Legend 3, Archon 3 (you) Archon 2 and Crusader 1. Roles your team will be slightly more organised, but also more standardised in the ways that you pick heroes, and your opponents will also be more organised. Each hero has different spells, and each has specific strengths and weaknesses. All Dota 2 teams, rankings, rosters, statistics and match historyif "heroes role" is added like in Ranked mode then majority of the people will just quit dota 2. According to Valve, “This tended to cause games to be really volatile and not enjoyable. 5k. However, the recent nosedive in Dota 2’s player count has greatly slowed matchmaking down. Especially at non peak playing times. Invoker. All the dota plus members that que in ranked roles will only play against other dota plus members that are queuing for the same mode. With so many roles in Dota, the offlane remains the most difficult role in the game. 2 to mid 3k playing nothing but cm, usually solo support. When it comes to quality of the players, Classic is way better than role queue. The MMR by medal is an estimate and is constantly adjusted. Ranked Mode. ago. Dota 2 launched a new mode called Ranked Matches with Roles. The Dota 2 rank distribution and estimated MMR by medal during season 3. thats why i play like ~80-90% support and ~10-20% core. Gaining a high MMR value depends heavily on winning a match to succeed in Dota 2; you should thus follow your teammates’ lead. now that is gone. However, the party numbers should be the same (if there is 1 two-man party on Dire, there should be 1 two-man party on. Dota 2 Action game DotA MOBA Gaming Valve Corporation Strategy video game comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A MIdasWellRoshan • Additional comment actions. There’s so much pride that gets carried into Dota 2 rankings and this is what makes Dota one of the most popular eSports games today. Si la partida es interrumpida por cualquier motivo, entonces no es una partida clasificatoria. While you can’t select roles before playing in Ranked Classic, you can do so in. Can’t press it. Click to reveal how they work and what you should know to succeed and achieve the highest Dota 2 rank possible. - Did Classic Ranked just replace "Slow Que" or is it just the older Ranked mode with different player pool and MMR? classic ranked is for people complaining long que time. Role Queue is a function within Ranked Roles that allows players to find matches faster. Granted this behavior is more prevalent in sub 5k MMR bracket, but I have seen players complain in higher ranks as well. High ranked players DO NOT HAVE role ranked, because it's like 1% of all dota players, and they have enough brain to form team consciously. Low 3k games tended to end up as a cluster fuck of nonstop. If u don’t have 3 dollars then u should be working and not playing dota. I play pos 5-4, sometimes 3. Then Valve started making changes nobody asked for. While the new ranked season differs in a lot of aspects, you do not have to take. Show your support for Dota Alchemy: Dota Alchemy Merch: explains h. With ranked role you sacrifice the freedom to play the role you want at any time for a, at least theoretical right, to force others to play a certain. Lose streak 3X ranked roles support 4/5 goes jungle from minute 1. Windranger. Ranked roles in Dota aren't well-designed. Mix in supports from more balanced skill brackets (means higher ranked supports in lower skill brackets). i however prefer roles, the advantages and disadvantages are lots of them both but i feel ranked classic is more uncoordinated and prefer role queue. Share Add a Comment. If you run out you can get 1 role que game for each 2 wins in normal ranked. Back in September 2019, Dota 2 experimented with a new system known as ranked roles. w/end Mar 5, 2020 @ 6:01pm. my friends mostly play classic i cant stand it however. There is no confirmation menu, so be very careful when browsing the menu. 1. It's also worth noting that several players don't even respect professional players. Immortal (top 1) –. Rank replaced mmr so we could focus on something else than the grind blah blah, yada yoda etc. Sir. I absolutely cannot play 5. It's also worth noting that several players don't even respect professional players. Members Online. Issue is ongoing as of July 2021. It'll also make the MMR matchmaking better in ranked roles. Plzzzzz ranked roles backkkkk PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ216 votes, 146 comments. When you queue there is variance for what kind of game you enter. Classic is +-30 for both. To me, both are toxic, but ranked roles seems to have better players. Dota 2 Dragon Knight Counters That Are Powerful (Best Heroes Against Dragon Knight in Dota 2, Ranked) Davion, the Dragon Knight is a classic tank hero, his high strength and high HP nature fit. Immediately the other 2 players started shouting to ban me, which they. Anyway, players have the choice now. the big appeal of playing strict solo ranked was that you knew that everyone else was also solo, everyone was thrown into the game on the same terms. but it’s impossible to overlook the pivotal role played by the team’s midlaner, Quinn “Quinn” Callahan. Dota community is not that nice to players overall and has toxic people in the pro scene like quinn and gpk who play well but are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Playing ember or mk into a lina or. Also people in my last game have dota levels greater than 100 so it’s not newer accounts in my games. i believe it's more accurate on console rather than on the graph it shows really weird lines. if u queue classic u might confront stacks and retarded games like a 2-stack on enemy and 5 solo on your team. But the issue is that it's consistently reverting to the original calibrated value in a matter of hours, so there is. But this toxic environment, is too much for me. You have a hero with a 43% winrate and 3% pickrate, that hero gets a small buff next patch, while others get nerfed, still the hero isnt picked, so they buffed it a bit the following patch, still not picked, buffed more and. I climbed from 2. In this article, we will. Tips. I can do both mid, and offlane, i dont have a problem with…Trying us east and west, seems like it doesn't work for me. You can't force other people to play the game the way you want to. And lets not even talk about the quality of the matches. I only played carry and offlane in the 10 calibration games. But at the same time it reduces the diversity of the game, an unique selling proposition and offers another reason to report team mates early on. In case of rank roles, antimage picker is safelane assigned and slark was support assigned, hence slark has to support, atleast till the report window closes, thus even if slark isnt a good hero for support choice, the player is playing his role ( for which you dont have to report him) but has picked a bad hero (can be reported in the end for. Why would I even queue for ranked classic? 40 minutes of playing DIsruptor/Rubick/Lion once every 5 games is better than losing my temper and sanity. And that was the day i stopped playing ranked classic. Yes, that was my idea too. They are ultimately the deciding factor in a team’s strength. Ranked Leaderboard NEW! Achievements; Highest Win Rate; Most Matches Played. I think that could actually detox some of ranked matches because there will be less frustrated players. I dont think thats totally the case, supports in my rank buy 2 wards and deward 1 ward and think they are like best support eu, when in reality supporting isnt just 1. Ranked roles is the mode where rolling and agreeing to play happens before match, so you don't have to have double mid and such. I dont even care what you have to say. I am playing ranked with role queue where, apart from the roles I would like to play (1 and 3), I have to select support and hard support. • 2 yr. You can imagine how happy those support players will be. in General Discussion. They got angry and wanted to go next fast so they fed my lone druid on mid. So if I queue classic, is it possuble to play against a team of players who are in role queue? Yes, and sentiment seems to be that it is fully intended as another motivator for people to move away from ranked classic and to ranked roles. Yust123. With the former, players choose their roles beforehand, while with the latter, no roles are assigned to any of the five players. I have been playing only unranked for a decade. I hope they change it back to just being able to pick roles without tokens in the next ranked season. Here’s why. Better than. Let's say you have 3000 mmr (on medal) so the matchmaker will use mmr according to the weight of your role you queue (see that if you queue for more roles, the matchmaker will use different mmr for each role): 5 - 3000 mmr. The Role Queue Games change ensured that. ”After some unranked games I started to give ranked a shot and calibrated to Crusader. Ty. the cores skill is pretty random. Carry (Position 1) Mid-Lane (Position 2) Off-Lane (Position 3) Soft Support (Position 4) Hard. Your teammates will most likely get the role they want or which they are best at. It splits the player base and has a negative impact on queueing times for solo playrs, as well as 2 and. This is to avoid a critical hero being counterpicked. 2. Tried some ranked roles, and it was amazing, no fights, no peruvians. Click on Options and then Advanced Settings. Before the update, I could find a game in 5 minutes queueing as Carry and get matched with players of a similar rank (Archon 2 plus minus 1). Each has different responsibilities. Members Online. MMR distribution by Medal - Season 3. The environment in ranked roles is also way more calm than normal. Matchmaking will then select you a role and put you into a. Ranked roles is king not even close. ” Following this patch, the ranked matchmaking algorithm will look now to match players based on each player’s role MMR. On the C-tier of hard support Dota 2 tier list, we have: Mirana. In NA i believe 80-90% of player above 6k play Classic as Roles gives you gigantic MMR discrepancies. After watching True Sight I think more people can agree that the normal All Pick way of composing a team, is so flawed and does not reflect the tactical depth drafting in DotA have in any way. E. But ya that would be nice too so when I play ranked roles later I know so you can practice without being pigeon holed into a lane with your role you weren’t practicing on. I also recommend so. New comments cannot be posted. Dota 2 is a team-oriented game which means players will need to perform certain roles and positions to win. The queue is now being added to Dota Plus, the game's subscription-based service. English-speaking community to discuss gameplay, esports, and news related to Valve's award winning free-to-play MOBA DotA 2. 3) instead people choose support role because they didn't wanted to wait for their role. After completing your recalibration, you will be given a new MMR value and medal. Valve refuses to fix anything related to match quality. Ranked roles has a horrible system. These relevant heroes are extremely good in all aspects of the game, and are also fight-ready from the early game! 10. I said in RR I will have a higher chance of getting the role I want. Make many people happy instead of making a few unhappy! And as said, if they are more than a few that don't play "their" role on a regular basis, there is something wrong in the. There are currently 123 heroes in the game. In lobby after ban I marked mid lane and picked. In what universe is this okay?Increasing number of people who just queue in a game but dont do anything bc they know they'll get ranked role matches regardless of win or loss. Is there anywhere I can see winrate vs roles/classic?A huge percentage of toxic players are toxic because they couldn't go mid or carry. But now with new update even low rank immortals like high 5ks, and low 6ks are forced to play ranked classic, and dota plus avoid player became useless in that immortal matchmaking. You can only see the assigned roles for 5 players so I think I am correct in assuming that sometimes, role queue players face off against regular ranked players. To ensure well balanced games the ranked. I want to practice different heroes on my role because there are different patches items and heroes are buffed and new item and hero builds are introduced what's normal. e. In general, players. DOTA 2: RANKED GAMES AND NON-COMPETITIVE GAMES. Dota 2 launched a new mode called Ranked Matches with Roles. Every time I ask other players in game, they feel the same. I think position 3 and 4 will be fine, something between offlane and jungler with the main task to push, push, push. You still get griefers but way less. Ranked Dota is all about being better than opponent so if you want to play well you should play Dota in the best way possible. • 2 yr. In my honest opinion, I think ranked roles baits people and makes it harder to climb, but at very low mmr it probably helps the quality of the matches enough to warrant it. Play a limited pool of meta heroes. My main 2 roles are pos 1 and 3. 33. Having role queue, ideally, should make people think about the roles, but unfortunately, people just turn off their brain and queue. And each throne or side has three different lanes, specifically: the midlane, safelane, and offlane. On the night of April 21, Valve released a global patch 7. Paid feature or not,I dislike the idea of role queue being forced. The idea was that players could choose roles before queuing and. Every game my pos 5 is playing pure carry!While Dota 2 news quite unrelated to competitive Overwatch, I think lots of OW players will be interested in how well it flies. 15. To raise u need focus on few things, knowledge, small hero pool to be better with them, attitude to own team, don't follow MMR, do breaks when u have lose streak, chose best time to play on your. This made the game very unfair for players who were strong in one category and not the other. You know what I'm talking about. Types of Ranked Queue. If you have less than 5 roles selected within your group you will. Dota 2 Workshop Fall Call-to-Arms September 22, 2023 We started the Dota Pro Circuit in 2017 to answer a question that was coming up more and more frequently: How do you earn an invite to The International? rektefied. At this point, role specific MMR is impossible to implement. [Dota 2 Announcement] Now Battle Pass owners can set their Lane Preference before they even enter the queue. Dota 2 Action game DotA MOBA Gaming Valve Corporation Strategy video game comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A InflameOG. For those who are confused by the role number, they are probably using 5 digit integer to represent the role hence when that binary number is converted to base 10 we have powers of 2. That's why everyone asked valve to make role ranked free of charge and accessible to everyone. I'd play ranked classic every single game if they didn't make it so strict solo queue was role queue only. If you select all 5 positions within a group of 2 players you will earn 2 role queue points and if you play with a group of 3 you will only earn 1 point per game. 5k MMR is 1. The real issue is people only selecting 1 or 2 roles. The ranking status of Dota 2 currently and in the future will depend on players who work collaboratively and enhance their gaming skills. But again, people can play however the frick they want. While you can’t select roles before playing in Ranked Classic, you can do so in. So every contribution is welcomed which can tell me: - Is it for solo queue only? - Is it. If Valve charges for ranked mode, the matchmaking pool would be diluted massively. Tier one heroes make up the top of Dota 2 ’s meta. Ranked roles is the mode where rolling and agreeing to play happens before match, so you don't have to have double mid. Removing the requirement to earn playing pos 1-3 in ranked would. nechdoesntno • 2 yr. in top 1000 pubs). We’ve picked these heroes based on the meta developed around the latest patch, but if you want more information on how to play a hero or what items to pick up alongside it, read on. 2. 5k you don't really want to Q ranked roles unless you're mid because the matchup can be quite unfair. But this time it seemed that the matches were decided before the picking stage even started. Players can earn 4 games for Role Queue every time they search for a match with all roles selected. I wish theyve made it to where you have to win to get the 4 games, and if you lose its only or none at all. The problem I personally have is that I can play every role except mid comfortably. There was a thread on the main Dota 2 subreddit where Yatoro got his carry role "stolen" by a nobody shortly after winning TI. Or maybe made it to where selecting 3 roles gets you 3 games, 4 roles = 4 games, 5 roles = 5 games. If some gets the majority of their reports as a support then just ban them from ranked roles (idk and idc. He has been using heroes such as IO, Marci, Pugna, Shadow Shaman, and Phoenix in his ranked Dota 2 matches, and has a win rate of 48. However it interests me how the matchmaking for Ranked Roles work. It would probably be more worthwhile on other servers. not just dota 2 but csgo as well having trouble finding game. Its also good to learn how to play support occasionally, it makes you a better core player. In ranked players should know about the role system in Dota2 and should be capable of negotiating roles, position and lanes with their team. Well now since every has ranked roles its insanely fast. Below 40% support players the ranked roles queue has a deficite. Queue times are a bit longer. View the complete Dota 2 profile for MyG on DotabuffYes! Valve removed the concept of both features from Dota 2 to enhance the ranked match-making experience. This change should help smooth out player behavior around Ranked Roles, where farming tokens sometimes takes precedence over playing an. ideally let everyone use this since it would lead to objectively better matchmaking across the board. In Dota 2, ranked games involve players choosing specific roles in a team, such as Carry and Support. There is no fast queue anymore. The skill difference between the highest ranked players and the casual Immortal players is usually huge. Although not fixed on a specific function, roles have been the standards on how the game is played. Toxic game design. Taweret Sep 8, 2020 @ 6:24am. But when the game was ended you saw that you play vs ranked roles players. The International 2023 Schedule,Teams, and Results. As a support player half my losses are determined by getting matched with 3 more support players and one of us being forced to play position 1/2. You should be controlling the map and suffocating the enemy with your team, while also farming for the late game. Replaced Core/Support roles with a system that adjusts MMR based on player performance in each role. like top 10 ranks should queue 4-5 hours to find a core game. Every single tier, apart from Immortal, has five. Usually I wait 10-15. they need to select a role. This patch focuses on the in-game competitive matchmaking, adding ranked roles to ranked matches and overhauling the MMR system. 2) Losing charges you a game, losing streak of 3 or more charges you 2 games. If you select all 5 positions within a group of 2 players you will earn 2 role queue points and if you play with a group of 3 you will only earn 1 point per game. high immortals playing classic cause the player base is too small for ranked role. That happens about 80% of the time in ranked roles. And here's the differrent, I think you could be able to choose a role before you start the game and when you get into a "pick-phase". I didn't have that experience, my wait time for carry/mid used to be 15-20 minutes but the games were absolutely awesome and I played a lot of games in Dota Plus ranked roles and gained tons of MMR. Go back to non-ranked roles where matches better represent the natural role distribution.